Why “SovereignLove.org”?

This ministry exists to proclaim the truly Good News that God is “the Savior of all mankind…”. Paul commanded Timothy to teach this…

Faithful is this saying and deserving of universal acceptance: and here is the motive of our toiling and wrestling, because we have our hopes fixed on the ever-living God, who is the Saviour of all mankind, and especially of believers. Command this and teach this.” 1 Timothy 4:9-11

The belief that God genuinely loves “ALL” of humanity (and desires all to be saved, 1 Timothy 2:4) is part of a larger, all encompassing theological framework straight out of scripture:

The cosmic purpose of the incarnation of God in Jesus Christ was and is to Sovereignly attain God’s desire and goal to bring restoration, unity and reconciliation to the entirety of His Creation! (see Acts 3:21, Ephesians 1:10 and Colossians 1:20)

Out of this foundational belief and commitment flows a passionate conflict with two prevailing beliefs within the traditional church:
1. The Reformed/Calvinist belief that God only or ultimately loves the “elect” and that the remaining majority of humanity is condemned to hell – and
2. The “traditional” view (held by Catholics and Protestants, Reformed and Arminian alike) that God is infinitely offended at unbelievers at death – and that they therefore justifiably suffer His holy wrath: eternal conscious torment in hell forever.

In contrast we believe:
1. God sovereignly elects some for special purposes of blessing the “non” elect (as a close reading of Romans 9-11 clearly demonstrates in that the “election” of the remnant within Israel ultimately opens the way to restoration for the “hardened” of Israel – see especially Romans 11:7-12);
2. Hell is a sovereign, restorative punishment of the “fire” of God’s presence (“a consuming fire” – Hebrews 12:29) that purifies unrepentant souls over the course of the “age of punishment” (Matthew 25:46) – not a vindictive or merely punitive punishment for all “eternity” (note for example, the mis-translation of (Greek) “aionios” in Matthew 25:46: it does not unambiguously mean “eternal” – its root meaning is “age”; and the word “punishment” is from (Greek) “kolasis” whose root meaning is “pruning” which possibly implies (as a metaphor) corrective chastisement.)

But our ministry does not exist to simply seek to correct these (as we see them) errors – but to offer positive, Biblically grounded, God-glorifying alternative frameworks which focus supremely on Christ as the final Word and revelation of God, on His cross and resurrection as the transformative center of  God’s redeeming plan/purpose in recreating His Cosmos (all creation), with Jesus the Christ (Messiah) as the Logos (Word) of God on which creation is framed and held together – who, fully God and fully human, entered into our fallenness with complete self-emptying solidarity, bearing our sin in His own human flesh up to the cross, paying the ransom for our release from imprisonment to the law of sin and death (and Satan’s deceptive and blinding kingdom) into the glorious new creation which began on that first Easter morning nearly 2000 years ago. Paul says that this solidarity was so real and substantial (even “ontological”) that when He died – we all died! (2 Corinthians 5:14-15). He is the second and “last” Adam – and just as the first brought condemnation and death to us all – so the “last” Adam will bring justification and life to the same “all”! (Romans 5:18). And, finally, in this last Adam, all who died in the first, “shall be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:22).

This perspective seeks to draw from the deep, refreshing and ancient streams of the Church Fathers (e.g. Athanasius, Gregory of Nyssa, Maximus the Confessor, etc.). It is their interpretation of Scripture which we find most faithful as they were historically nearer to the language and culture out of which the New Testament organically developed – and well before other influences (chiefly through Augustine [who did not speak Greek] and later developed by Luther and Calvin) corrupted and confused (or just ignored) the ancient Church’s perspective on such fundamental issues as fallen human nature (e.g. “free will” and Patristic anthropology) and the nature of punishment in the afterlife, etc.

By God’s grace alone we seek to humbly play a small part in re-digging these ancient wells (Genesis 26:18) and bringing true spiritual refreshment to the Body of Christ. In some points we readily admit we may err – but we humbly hope always to be open to correction – especially when offered in a spirit of gentleness and love.

We genuinely covet your prayers, and should you be so directed, your financial support.

In the Love of Christ, which surpasses all understanding – and the Grace of Christ, which “much more” abounds where sin abounds:
I am, seeking and desiring to be your servant and, above all, a servant of Christ Jesus,

Wayne Fair



5 thoughts on “Why “SovereignLove.org”?

  1. Wow! You are blind to your arrogance, Dustin. It is just that tone that I cannot and will not abide.
    I have and will allow debate offered in good faith and humility – those who communicate in some way, “I may be wrong – but this is what I believe…” – and even when I consider their beliefs “untrue” as I do your Calvinism.
    You need to see that the issue (why this bothers you so much) is not just “truth” – but ego.
    Yes – you asked questions – most being rhetorical.
    Yes – you quoted scripture – as any good Mormon could do. It’s how you systematize them that I find appalling (when it comes to “the doctrines of grace” (so called))…

    You have here accused me of suppressing the “truth” (Calvinism?!) in unrighteousness – I kinda don’t think that is what Paul is speaking of in Romans 1? Maybe it is YOU that is suppressing the truth – as did the Pharisees of long ago – chiefly (and ironically) because they thought they understood the Scriptures…

    But, honestly, I think a major part of my decision is because I am old (67) and tired – and am exhausted after weeks of debating a “Christian Unitarian” over the divinity and pre-existence of Christ. I just don’t have the time or energy (and, I am afraid to admit, patience) to enter into every fray – so it is much easier to just delete and mute.

    I think you are the first I’ve ever done this to. (and I even went back to see if I could undelete them!)

    You really need to ask yourself, “why does this bother me so much?” Do you not trust the providence of God? You’ve done your part – leave the rest to God…
    Perhaps your own outrage and sense of offense reveals a bit of your own insecurity?

    I don’t know -I probably shouldn’t have said half of what I did above – I will almost certainly offend you further – but God knows that isn’t my intent – someone needs to help you see yourself better… (as is always true for me as well)

    Believe me or not – my sincere prayer for you and your family is that you be blessed in the best and highest ways…

    If you want a good-faith discussion (from a former-Calvinist and graduate of Reformed Theological Seminary [whoo-hoo!]) then feel free to reach out to me at my personal email address:

    Maybe we can have a fresh discussion – and talk respectfully to one another?

    Blessing in Christ!


  2. Mr. Fair, I did not realize that you had responded to me on this thread until just now.
    I went back to see if you had responded to my final comment on your article “Response to a Young Calvinist” and noticed that you had deleted our entire conversation there as well.
    That’s when I remembered my very first comment to you was on this article.

    In sincerely searching my own motives before God in initially reaching out to you due to being censored on your YouTube channel; I can honestly say that I do not believe arrogance was a factor. Though I have certainly been guilty of such behavior and worse in my life. I sincerely felt unfairly treated and that silencing someone rather than showing them their error based on Scriptural exposition is not at all in keeping with the biblical mandate to “preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.” 2 Timothy 4:2

    I would humbly submit that there is a difference between arrogance and confidence, in both the Word of God and one’s own ability by the grace of God to properly apply the Word of God to contend for the true Gospel.
    “Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a worker who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth.” 2 Timothy 2:15

    Please know that I do understand the context in which Paul was using the phrase “they suppress the truth in unrighteousness” but I also believe there is arguably a principle there seen and repeated throughout Scripture that you have exemplified in your censorship of someone, namely me, who has used Scripture to refute the false gospel of universal salvation.

    I sympathize with your stated situation with having debated a “christian unitarian” for weeks! I can only imagine the exhaustion that one might feel attempting to climb back up and out after such an ordeal (Luke 6:39).

    I appreciate the invitation for private discourse, but I would have much rather let that happen openly for the edification of others. Unfortunately, it is plain to see that you and I are of very different opinions in that regard.
    “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 5:14-16

    I do in fact “trust the providence of God”, I have every confidence that the hours I have invested replying to you will not have been in vain even if you continue in your suppression by deleting every last word I’ve said to you.

    Once again in closing 😊, as someone who knows and loves Paul Bunyan’s great literary work, Pilgrim’s Progress, I cannot express to you the surreal quality and irony of having engaged with someone with your last name.
    Thank you once again for your time, Mr. Fair.


    1. Dustin –

      “Do not rebuke an older man but encourage him as you would a father, younger men as brothers,” 1Tim.5:1

      “Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,” 2 Timothy 2:25

      For any failure on my part regarding the latter, I do ask your forgiveness.

      The holiness of God? Yes – There is no one like Him! But it makes no sense to me that this is the “essence” of God’s nature (it doesn’t tell us anything about what God is like – just that no one is like Him.) But I do whole-heartedly agree that He is most Holy – but especially when it comes to His Love and Mercy!

      “How can I give you up, Ephraim? How can I hand you over, Israel? How can I treat you like Admah? How can I make you like Zeboyim? My heart is changed within me; all my compassion is aroused. I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a man— the Holy One among you. I will not come against their cities.” Hosea 11:8-9

      We disagree on many things – but I cannot un-believe these simple truths of Scripture – and I cannot un-see what has been personally revealed to me in them (regardless of whose systems of doctrine they do or do not fit)

      “[God is] not willing that any should perish” – 2 Pet.3:9

      “who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible – Matthew 19:25-26

      You cling to the certainty of Scripture (not as written, but as you interpret it) – and neglect the possibilities of God…

      “we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.” 1 Tim. 4:10

      the unification of all things:
      “he made known to us the mystery of his will according to his good pleasure, which he purposed in Christ, to be put into effect when the times reach their fulfillment—to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ.” Eph.1:10

      the reconciliation of all things:
      “and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.” Col. 1:20

      “…God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.” 1 Tim. 2:3-4

      Have you truly contemplated this one simple Truth?
      “Gospel” mean GOOD News! Jesus Christ IS Lord – and His heart is set upon the reconciliation of ALL things…

      As someone has said, “the core of the Gospel is a blunt indicative!” – Jesus IS Lord! Yes, He judges to the nth degree with His refiners fire and fullers soap – but it is meant to purify and cleanse – to “prune” (as “kolasis” implies in Matt. 25 – translated “eternal [age-long] punishment”)

      But I fear you will let your Calvinistic casuistry rob you of these simple truths…

      “And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.” 1 Cor.8:2

      “Now we see through a glass darkly” 1 Cor. 13

      There is little to no epistemic humility in the way you frame your beliefs – and that is (one reason) why I deleted your comments.

      The one redeeming thing about Calvinism that I retain is a robust belief in the Sovereignty of God…

      There is NOTHING that shall thwart the Word of God – For He in His Sovereign Love will conquer every heart – and the ultimate and final Word (Jesus) WILL draw (drag) everyone to To God… and He is the second Adam that will do no less than the first!

      8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
      neither are your ways my ways,”
      declares the Lord.
      9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
      so are my ways higher than your ways
      and my thoughts than your thoughts.
      10 As the rain and the snow
      come down from heaven,
      and do not return to it
      without watering the earth
      and making it bud and flourish,
      so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,
      11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:
      It will not return to me empty,
      but will accomplish what I desire
      and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.” – Isaiah 55

      “I have sworn by my own name; I have spoken the truth, and I will never go back on my word: Every knee will bend to me, and every tongue will declare allegiance to me.”” – Isaiah 45:23

      Jesus, THE Word, says, “God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”

      And, from the hymn Jesus sang upon the cross,
      “All the ends of the earth
      will remember and turn to the Lord,
      and all the families of the nations
      will bow down before him,” – Psalm 22:27

      Maybe this is what must fundamentally divides us: You are obsessed with the Letter – and I (want) to be obsessed with the Spirit and the NEW Covenant….

      You appear to know only “Christ and him crucified” (yes, essential and absolute!) – but (it seems to me) you have little to no grasp of THE Mystery hidden for the ages which is for OUR glory (1 Cor. 2)… A further study of what Paul is referring to here (especially in Colossians 1) reveals that this mystery IS Christ – with special emphasis that He created ALL things, that He hold ALL things together – and that He is the Image of God (and, therefore, every human born bears HIS image. Unlike Calvin who said that image was obliterated – I am confident it remains, though hidden, marred and obscured, stamped upon every human being – the truest definition of their “nature” – and the assurance that they belong to the Father and are His offspring).

      “we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.” – Romans 7:6

      “not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.”
      2 Cor.3:6 There Paul reveals a shocking truth: the very word of God written by His own finger on enduring tables of stone is passing away – fading in its glory by comparison to the mystery of Christ and “beholding as in a mirror” the Glory of God in the face of Christ!

      My favorite Lewis quote sums it up well:
      “There is almost no “letter” in the words of Jesus. Taken by a literalist, He will always prove the most illusive of teachers. Systems cannot keep up with that darting illumination. No net less wide than a man’s whole heart, nor less fine of mesh than love, will hold the sacred fish.”

      This is my sincere prayer for you (and for me!), Dustin:
      “14 For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15from whom every family a in heaven and on earth derives its name. 16I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith.

      And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.” – Eph. 3:17-19


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